WOTLK

[Brigh]

Brigh, back to planetside eh ? Anything actually changed or they just milking everyone for every penny now ?

las

The game in itself is still the same - go somewhere and blow things up but it is a lot more balanced now and with the recent news of the merger and everyone being given access to BFR's (before you had to complete criteria) it has sparked a lot of people back into playing.

I guess if you play you have 2 options - to zerg with everyone else or get involved in special ops and do stuff as a small group (gen hold's and gal drops), I'm currently involved in the 2nd option and swap and play on all 3 empires when I get bored of one

I'm just waiting now for the merger so I can start playing my main character again!

Brigh

[Lasiien]

Yeah i used to prefer the special ops type stuff too, really good in a guild/outfit. Though the occasional zerg can also be fun, I imagine its even better now that peoples PC can prolly cope with it with ease (when PS first came out i remember it was fps hell in a zerg )

[Brigh]

yeah it was bad to begin with but now even playing on the American servers isn't that bad, just have to lead a little with your aiming

Brigh

[xann]

I returned to WoW for about a week, PvPing, and my final conclusion is. If you are serious about winning and playing to win in the WotlK, you have to reroll to a paladin/Death Knight, or spend endless hours grinding honour/arena points to get the top gear, so you can then stand a chance against the paladins/Death Knights. Same old "blah blah" the games never been balanced for 1v1, and never can be, but at 60th i did feel like i had a chance vs all other classes regardless of gear too in some cases. Strange how its gone down hill so much i guess its Blizz wanted to shift the games appeal as it evolved...

I'm bored and want a mmorpg that isn't a clone.

[Lasiien]

Pallies are having their moment in the sun are they ? Ret pallies or other specs?

Unsurprising that DKs are good, I think its almost always the plan to make new classes overpowered so people roll them and spend time making them, but never fear the nerfbat is not far away

I agree with you - the worst kind of fight is one where you know you're going to lose whatever happens or how well you play, sucks :/

[xann]

its all specs, Ret palas are deadly, Holy can make a friend unkillable aswell as looking after them selves, and Prot are the worst... Death Knights are just abit silly

I think its got sumthing to do with wearing plate, being able to self heal, having high dps and high solo survivablity that makes both of them OP... yeah that'll do it

[Brigh]

Wonder how long a Pala vs Pala duel would take - probably about the same as a Warden vs Warden duel in DAoC

Brigh

[Cernos]

DK and Pala are OP at the moment, but there's a wider problem that has been in place since TBC and got a lot worse with WOTLK - burst damage. The burst damage from most classes is totally out of control. I agree about the idiocy of a self-healing, high dps class in plate, but the reality is that plate doesn't mitigate much damage in PvP these days, plate wearers take a couple more hits to kill is all. What gives Pala and DK the edge is their OP abilities rather than the plate. Pala v pala duels don't last as long as you'd think, the burst damage takes care of that.

I've done some PvP in the Bgs with my hunter (now 80 with full PVE epix) and I can kill most classes in a few short seconds. Of course the flipside is that if anyone gets on my case I also die in even less time (I don't even bother trying to kite, it's futile). Resillience also seems to mean nothing anymore. Dunno how the arenas are, I've never done them, but over the years I've played a lot of BGs and the quality of the PvP game experience has gone over the edge of a cliff. You could argue that high burst damage is what people want and Blizz are catering to that, but ask most people and they say they hate it so I think the reality is Blizz screwed up by constantly buffing gear and they can't find a way to rebalance things.

[xann]

DK and Pala are OP at the moment, but there's a wider problem that has been in place since TBC and got a lot worse with WOTLK - burst damage. The burst damage from most classes is totally out of control. I agree about the idiocy of a self-healing, high dps class in plate, but the reality is that plate doesn't mitigate much damage in PvP these days, plate wearers take a couple more hits to kill is all. What gives Pala and DK the edge is their OP abilities rather than the plate. Pala v pala duels don't last as long as you'd think, the burst damage takes care of that.

I've done some PvP in the Bgs with my hunter (now 80 with full PVE epix) and I can kill most classes in a few short seconds. Of course the flipside is that if anyone gets on my case I also die in even less time (I don't even bother trying to kite, it's futile). Resillience also seems to mean nothing anymore. Dunno how the arenas are, I've never done them, but over the years I've played a lot of BGs and the quality of the PvP game experience has gone over the edge of a cliff. You could argue that high burst damage is what people want and Blizz are catering to that, but ask most people and they say they hate it so I think the reality is Blizz screwed up by constantly buffing gear and they can't find a way to rebalance things.

All true, i haven't arena'd in WotlK either, but i expect its being ruled by the fotm setup as usual... Prot Pala/Unholy DK prolly

rebalance... complete wipe of x-pacs would be a start