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General => General Chat => Topic started by: Brigh on March 03, 2009, 03:08:28 pm
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Hey Guys
Anyone played or is playing Eve Online at the moment? I noticed they have a free 14 day trial so was going to download and have a look at it.
Is it any good as I fancy getting into a online game but would prefer to try something else apart from Warcraft (although its tough to beat!)
Brigh :D
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I've played the 14 day trial on about 3 different occasions. But I never converted to a full subscription. Not because I didn't like the game but because the monthly fee was more expensive than most and because it seemed to carry the risk of being an even bigger time sink than WoW. To really succeed in the game you need to join a corporation and build your reputation. This isn't like joining a guild in WoW and being an active member, you really have to work at it in EVE. It is fun to dabble with the trial, but you soon realise that to make any progress you need to decide what you want to achieve in the game and then work towards it. It's not one of those games where you can just pootle along picking up quests (the mission system soon becomes repetitve in EVE).
The skills system is time based, you start learning a skill and after X amount of time you gain it. Training continues even when logged out. You can also learn any skill in the game, given enough time. What this means is that veteran players have enormous amounts of skills which you as a new player can never catch up with. However, the way the game is structured you don't really need to *IF* you specialise into a certain role. That's the cruncher, you need to know what you want to specialise in and how to go about it. The advantage veteran players have is they have enough skills to switch roles as they choose, noobs need to focus on one role and master it.
There's a lot of depth to EVE, almost too much depth. It's a very challenging game both in terms of learning how to fly your craft and in terms of learning how to stay alive in the game world. You really can lose everything to pirates if you stray into un-policed space. The game is 100% safe if you stick to the high security systems, but the real rewards of course are to be found in less secure areas. There is insurance you can buy in-game which protects you to some degree, including replacement ships and body clones. But it is possible to mess up and lose everything. Last time I played I got very rich thanks to a lucky find on a dangerous mission, then blew it all on a posh ship I didn't understand how to use, took out the wrong level of insurance (due to being a noob) and then lost it all in a gunfight because I couldn't handle all the new weaponry I'd just slapped onto every available gunport. I had too many weapons, all my power drained and I couldn't fight or run ... a rather humiliating end (luckily it was to NPC pirates so hopefully no-one saw). Such is the harsh lessons of EVE.
The character generation system is a fun one, it's one of those games you can spend an age just designing how your avatar looks - well you can if you are me or eKo :)
It's one of those games I've always been interested in playing but never did for fear of becoming too immersed. It doesn't seem to be one of those games it is easy to dip in and out of. Anyway, it's certainly worth trying the trial and see what you think.
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Cheers for the info Cern
Will download the trial and see what it is like - wouldn't mind playing some type of sci-fi game again. I've recently been playing Aliens vs Predator 2 and a load of Star Wars games so into space and stuff now! :D
Brigh :D
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heya Brigh :D Got bored of PS ?? ;)
What Cern said really. I played EVE for about a month quite a while back and it became apparent that the time you'd need to dedicate to it would just be enormous and since i was playing wow at the time also i really didn't want to take it any further. It really has some awesome concepts though and is very original, it's almost entirely player driven as well which is very unique.
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Still dabble with PS but player base is so low now its tough to find fights. The only good thing is that as no new players are coming, the people you fight against are normally a high standard!
Will try EVE and see how it goes.
I've not kept track of online gaming for a while - is there anything on the horizon that might be worth checking out together?
Brigh :D
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Not really, wow killed all the competition ;)
Sax is looking forward to Aion i think still ? though i don't think it will be for me. Darkfall is finally getting released though again I'm not really fussed :/ Only one im even slightly hyped about is the Bioware star wars MMO based on KOTR, but thats prolly years away. Oh and blizzard seem to have a new in development MMO as it was announced that Jeff Kaplan (sp?) lead designer of wow is going to go work on another MMO in development..... though I'm not sure i can see blizzard messing with the wow formula too much in whatever they come up with.
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There's not a lot on the MMO horizon at the moment. It's basically WoW dominating and killing the genre + lots of titles struggling for the scraps, most of which have been released too early or weren't properly thought out.
Darkfall sounds like the launch from hell to end all launches from hell, even worse than AoC. It's a hardcore PvP game anyway, so no thanks. Aion hasn't grabbed my interest so unless Sax reports back that it's a stonker I doubt I'll bother.
Knights Of The Old Republic looks interesting, so let's hope Bioware don't drop the ball.
Blizzard's next MMO will very likely be World Of Starcraft if all the rumours have substance (it's the most logical next MMO for them). I'm sure it'll be good but I doubt it'll veer to far from WoW's formula (though ironically if any company have the financial stability to take a few risks, then surely it's Blizzard).
Warhammer's patch 1.2 is out today on US servers. There's two new classes, including the Choppa which was the class I wanted to play all along, plus a huge amount of changes. I might just reactivate my US account and see what has changed in the four months since I last played. I suspect that not enough of the fundamental game design problems have been addressed, but after almost zero gaming since Xmas I fancy having a look at something or other and I'm loathe to get back on the WoW treadmill.
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Anything Star Wars related is going to get brought by me tbh - I just wish Galaxies was a better game!
I'm mainly just mucking round on old games - just completed Unreal Tournement 2003 (offline) and also Freelancer (love that game) so looking for something else to.
Brigh :D
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Aion sounds good to me. I am starting to get the mmorpg feel again now but not enough to start up WoW or anything, I am totally intending to beat Civ4 on Prince and move up to Monarch, though I find it disapointing I don't have time/ability to spot the strats I read about on the forums.
Aion's lvl progression has been toned down to match Western games apparently, there are 50 lvls and most of the content will be around PvP, though PvP is consensual. There are 3 factions, 1 is a NPC faction trying to kill everyone the other 2 are Angelic and Demonic and they can't communicate or group. There are lots of Castles and Sieges and Raids both PvE and PvP, there seem to be concepts from WoW, DAoC and Lineage series, the gfx are gonna be pretty high quality I imagine (at last something more challenging than Civ4 for my super machine!). Release is prolly between 1-3 months, its open beta in Korea, though I'd bet that the lvl curve is slower there than here.
Sax.
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If you're looking for a good (single player) sci-fi RPG Brigh and you liked both KOTR's then pick up Mass Effect, can see it on amazon for ?15 atm and you'd prolly find it cheaper than that somewhere I'm sure. Well worth it imo
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Looks good Las - can see it for ?18 on play.com but will have a look in game and gamestation tomorrow and see if its cheaper, can sometimes find some good pre-owned games in there!
Brigh :D
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Well dabbled a bit in Eve last night and it seemed ok but don't think I will subscribe.
For the meantime I will play some WoW but this time on Alliance - got some toons on Thunderhorn which I will play until something else comes along :)
Brigh :D
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gnome deathknight ftw? ;)
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nope got a gnome rogue at level 60 so going to take him into TBC and have a look around at the Alliance quests
Brigh :D
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gnome deathknight ftw? ;)
I agree! Just need more (non-working) hours in a day so I can level her ;).
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Oh no - been playing WoW for most of the weekend on my Alliance rogue and I hate to say it but I'm really enjoying it again - TBC is mostly empty now so quests are easier to complete as not fighting over mobs. Managed to get from 60 to 63 (due mainly to a maxed out reasted bonus) and enjoying the alliance quests!
Will see how I feel when I get to 70 though!
Brigh :D
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addict ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXeyYdGoLCU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXeyYdGoLCU)
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definetly one of the most intresting games i've ever played, but i'd echo the early posts in this thread. It prolly takes years to learn the game properly, and even longer to be any real solo sucsess.
i've (and carc) had a lucky introduction to the game tho, having rich friends already been playing for a looong time helps, once the skills have been trained to fly a new ship it matrilizes in the hanger ;) we've been able to jump "straight" into some decent play, being a pvp Corp acting like a space mafia, its a laugh :)
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nice one, you'll have to let us know how you both get on, i always thought the game could get pretty engaging. Tell us more about what your guild does?
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Well recently we've been scouting for suitable PoS's (Player Owned Stations) to take down for a nice profit, either we try and totaly destroy the thing and loot it (think of anything that could be on a space station, power core, Labs, guns, can all be riped off and sold) Or after awhile of hammering the shields and taking out players of the enemy Corp, we call for a cease fire if they pay us X amount of isk.
Doesn't have to be a PoS involed tho, can just look for a nice rich mining Corp and declare war, harras them for awhile and get 'em to pay up for us to stop :)
Its a Militant Corp basicly, they've had the idea of doing some mercenary jobs, leting ppl hire us for protection or to attack someone else without incriminating themselves.
lately we've been operating in High Security space, were a war needs to be delcared and everything legal, can't just attack some1 else otherwise CONCORD(space police) turn up and blow to into next month. But Low Sec space is where things can get intreasting :) Capital ships like Titans, Carriers etc can only operate in Low Sec space, so thats where you can rly rake in some isk thru force... while in High Sec ppl are safe in the knowledge that there can only be Battleships at worst in the next system, but if ur PoS is in Low Sec, u nvr know if a bunch of Titans are gonna warp in on ur ass... and visa versa ofc, we've biten off more than we can chew on a few occasions :)
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Playing a Mercenary sounds like a lot of fun. I have a retail box of EVE sitting on my shelf ready to install. Only reason I haven't is I've been busy with work and also away on hols. But now I'm back I'm going to give it a whirl. I'll give a shout once I'm set up in game, hopefully I can get my previous trial characters transferred to my retail account (support said this can be done) as one of them has a bit of ISK to get me started.
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Just steal some cash off Xan... he always had loads when he played wow (dunno where he got it all from!)
That merc corp sounds fun Xan, right up your street too - do you do assassinations ? If so i have a newbie target for you beginning with the letter C...... ;)
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Not really, Xan gave me his gold when he left and it was only around 1000g :P. Which I spent on dual spec for my shammy.
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Xan had 1000g ? :) Was carco's account still active? ;)
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Xan had 1000g ? :) Was carco's account still active? ;)
last thing i remeber was me giving carc gold to lvl his Enchanting :P
Haven't played EVE much recently, but the Corp did some roaming(random pvp in Low Sec) and killed the "wrong" guy it seems, the main station we dock at has been camped for a few days now by 30+ ships ;)
ps. rip MJ
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last thing i remeber was me paying carc back gold to lvl his Enchanting :P
corrected ;)
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pwned!