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Not sure I'll join Wildstar, seems to have grown on you Cern but my impressions are more like your first post. Its not exactly relaxing and just shoves shit in my face all the time If you're all still raving about it a few months then I might get off the fence but i suspect it's just WoW behind all the ADHD stuff not sure I get on with the whole cartoon thing either - I do like the humour though, liked it since you first posted about it a while back eko.

Pfft, you're just getting old .

There's nothing wrong with having a tutorial or 2 pop up, having the level up animation and having a challenge or 2 activate while being in combat .

It's kinda strange as I haven't felt that at all, though yes there can be quite a lot going on. Some people even find the tutorial on the ship boring, though I find it introduces the game mechanics well. And yeah it's mostly up to level 15-ish, after that it is calmer. As far as I know there will be more shiphands, adventures & dungeons than are available right now in beta, but that's mostly 15+ anyway.

And I'm not ever gonna play on a PvP realm again, it sucked in DAoC and also in WoW. You hardly ever get in a fair fight anyway, mostly they either outnumber you or wait for you to engage a mob. PvP in battlegrounds/arena is good enough for me, plus Warplot PvP sounds like a great idea. (And else there's still PS2 for a PvP fix). My biggest gripe is that raids/warplots will be 40-man and thus could be hard to organize and means you need a huge guild. Though there should also be enough solo/small group content available (shiphands, adventures & dungeons).

Got ESO while waiting for Wildstar to come out, but discovered some other games to play in the meantime: Shadowrun Returns (cyberpunk meets fantasy RPG) & Child of Light (platformer meets JRPG with gorgeous handpainted graphics & animations). Was thinking to give D3 another whirl since they removed the AH & changed item drops to suit your character more, but cba somehow (and still have a huge backlog of games to play anyway).

Cancelled my ESO subscription today as the game is not for me. I haven't encountered many bugs, but some things seem poorly thought out: what amounts to a SP quest system in an MMO with hilarious results like waiting with 10 other people for a boss to (re)spawn and trying to get a hit in so you can advance the quest or doing one of those chain events and realize at the end that there's no reward whatsoever for doing it (and thus not bothering anymore). And the number of gold spammers is simply horrible ,never have I encountered so many of them (the report function sucks & the fact that they had to disable the PM/whisper system at some point says a lot). And having a simple to execute dupe bug in the game doesn't inspire much confidence either .

Wildstar has bugs as well and does have some performance issues (but it gets better with every patch), but I'm having more fun there than in ESO. I love the cartoony graphics, goofy over the top animations and the humour throughout. The quests are much more typical fare and there are tons of them (though you don't have to do them all, tasks for example can be easely dropped) and the path system isn't as imaginative as they make it out to be (it's not bad, but rather repetitive). Character customization is decent, but you can also customize your mount (I have no experience with it though) and the housing options are expansive (and expensive). Some people have done incredible things with the housing editor (someone built a piano with about 700 objects and others have created a second story in their house).

It is aimed at the more hardcore crowd with the 20/40 man dungeons and challenging content, but they're planning on having more than enough content for all sorts of players (solo, raid, pvp). Not sure how it will pan out in the long run, but I'm still having fun playing it so far .

Does anyone want a key for the weekend beta of Wildstar this weekend (from Friday April 25 at 7:00am PDT until on Sunday April 27 at 11:59pm PDT)? I got one on my second email address, but since I pre-ordered I can already participate in the weekend betas . I played quite a bit last weekend, but not sure if I'll have much time this weekend anyway.

It does have the same cartoony graphics of WoW (and as such is bright & colourful unlike ESO), but the combat is action based like Neverwinter Online or ESO. You do get a limited amount of skills (eight) on your actionbar, but the skills can be upgraded & swapped at will. You also have a talent tree of sorts (AMP).

They're not trying the reinvent the wheel, but like WoW (Carbine consists of ex-Blizzard employees after all) they borrow elements from other MMO's and bring it into one streamlined package. It's not the most inventive game, but I had fun so far mainly questing, doing a shiphand mission (soloable story based mission) and an adventure (group based VR mission with different branching paths). I'm not high enough to do a dungeon (there are 2 at level 20 I think) and haven't tried any PvP.

I love the cartoon style (well, I do love cartoons) and the humour, especially when rezzing ("Oh you died ... again."), teleporting ("Do you want to be transported in one piece or one piece at a time? ... So predictable!") or taking taxi's (they tell groan inducing puns). The UI and the quest tracker especially need some more work (as there are *tons* of quests). The game is also challenging and they intend to keep it that way (I've heard the first dungeon is punishing as a PuG ), which is good. (Last weekend the mobs were too easy for a day, but they patched that during the weekend. Mobs were way too easy, I could easely solo mobs meant for 2 or 3 players which removed most of the challenge.) Yes I've died quite a bit and yes it can sometimes be infuriating to be taunted while rezzing ).

Try the demo . I only played the demo and combat is hex & turn based so it's kinda x-com fantasy style yeah. Difficulty is rather hard, so if you like a challenge play it on hard!

True! That's why mine is human

LOL yeah, been replaying WoW since Monday. Got bored of everything else I tried so resubbed to WoW. Blizzard anounced a new expansion, so there's no more big updates until the expansion afaik. Found levelling to be pretty boring tbh, it feels extremely easy, maybe because I tried a hunter, but there's been no challenge so far. At least there are some fun quests to spice things up. Been playing on Thunderhorn so far, but tempted to try my Horde chars (shaman or warrior) on Wildhammer, though Awakening switched servers (for raiding afaik). None of them are level 85 though so would have to do more levelling there.

Grew bored with Neverwinter after getting to 60, so decided to try out a few other F2P MMO's (EQ2, Rift, Firefall, Tera). The only one of those I like is Tera, since Cryptic copied their combat system . It's initially a Korean MMO which is clearly visible in the character design, but the translation is well done and it's not a grindfest like the earlier eastern MMO's. It won't have lasting appeal, but levelling is a lot of fun.

Firefall is different enough, since it's a 3rd person shooter based MMO. You can switch an exoskeleton (which can be upgraded) at a garage to change your role, so you're not stuck with 1 class. But since it doesn't rely on the standard quest system, but instead on random events it gets boring relatively fast. It's still in beta though so might get better, but I gave up on it already.

I did come across Wildstar which looks cool. I like the humour they put in their movies, but the game might be too similar to WoW though the Paths sound nice. It's in closed beta right now and probably won't even be released this year though.