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Dark Age Of Camelot => DAOC General => Topic started by: Cernos on December 09, 2009, 12:40:56 pm
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Well since there's three of us actually subscribed now (Sax, Brigh and myself) I thought I'd create a section of the forum where we can discuss stuff, list our toons and so on.
Currently we seem a bit split between Mid and Hib. As you know I'm well established on Mid, but Sax prefers Hib and is levelling some toons there. I don't mind also levelling up on Hib, but it would be for nostalgia reasons. I don't think there's any point levelling Hib purely because Midgard currently have a population advantage. Players can play all three realms now on the same server so population swings depending on where the relics are (Molvik has been Alb and Hib dominated in recent days but last week it was all Mid). The advantage of Mid is I have plenty of ways to boost us (spare gear, spellcrafter, buffbots etc). Levelling on Hib will be more of a challenge.
Currently I have the following active toons, all level 39: Cern (Runemaster), Cernip (Skald), Sproutacus (Warrior), Botoxica (Shaman). I'm playing them in Molvik with a view to seeing which I prefer the most to develop as an endgame character. You might also see me online on my spellcrafter (Falsebeard) or main bot (Botoxic).
If I start on Hib I will probably make an Eldritch, though an Animist or Luri Hero might also be fun. I'd thought about making a Bard but I think my reactions are too slow these days and I'd just be embarassing and fail to mezz anyone :)
What are everyones plans? How are you finding Hib Sax?
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Hey Guys
I don't mind where we play, I have a lvl24 skald which is kitted out with some good stuff as is probably my fav class to play so far.
If we went Hib I would probably go with a blademaster, champion or one of the new classes (tbh don't know much about any of the expansions or the classes) I think - I like to have speed but I guess with the hasteners scattered around the place its not that much of an issue anymore.
I guess with the 5 minute realm swap timer you could easily level up on both realms
Anyone know much about the hib class vampiir? might play that if we moved across to hib :)
Brigh :D
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Hey,
I was away for a few days but back now. I have on Midgard a 24th geared out Thane (thanks Cern ;p) and on Hibernia I have a 33rd Druid who I am currently taking up to Molvik (I had intended to play Thid with him but didn't turn off xp during a keep take and got 10,000,000xp which is >50% at 24th lvl!). Once I have gotten my Druid to 39th I'll play him and may take my Thane up to 39th also but I dunno how that'll work out. I did join a guild on Hibernia but don't really know what sort of ppl they are, I was getting to feeling that they are American kids, or most of them are, if so I'll prolly drop from their guild (if this is the case), we'll see. I'll prolly search to web for a more EU guild at some point, to see what my options are.
I am finding Hib to be fun btw, I have gona through Muire plenty, gone wandering around the Cliffs of Moher, solo'd my way through the Koalinth Caverns and checked out one or two other places, didn't get to check out the area around Howth though and they have changed Connla to a mid lvl zone, though this is where I am xping now.
Sax.
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nice one sax
I leveled my skald up to 31 last night (cheers cern) :)
While we were leveling we discussed about making a hib char and I think Cern is going to make a Luri Hero and I was going with a Luri Champion - on Cern's buffbot account he is going to level a bard I believe for end regen and speeeeeeed :)
If we were going to level up I could easily open another 14 day free trial account and drag a druid around with us for buffs
I suspect once finished we will all have lvl39 chars on both Hib and Mid so can swap around.
On a side note does anyone use Xfire?
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I've made a Luri Hero, named Cernos (ofc). Just a level 2 placeholder for now, will maybe start levelling him this evening.
I don't have Xfire but could look into installing it. I was also thinking about setting up a Ventriloserver on my web server as this could be useful, especially for RvR.
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aye vent would be even better than sorting out x-fire
Brigh :D
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Sweet. I am happy to spend a couple hours following you both about making sure your buffed and don't die e.t.c when you play Hib. Whats the deal with a lvl 3x healing a lvl 1x or 2x? Does this affect xp? I might be busy tonight (not sure), but should be free tomorrow and maybe Sat. Still playing some Civ4, atm I am trying to kick everyones ass on a huge high water lakes map at prince but will try and drag myself away from this and play some DAoC :)
Sax.
edit - I have headphones so can dl and instal whatever.
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I'm around tonight I believe but as its my 30th Birthday on Monday I'm going to busy most of the weekend I suspect getting drunk!
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Out of combat healing between pulls from a higher level is fine, doesn't affect xps. Healing during combat means zero xps for that pull and usually also causes BAF for the next pull. What I was doing with Brigh's skald last night was using my Shammy bot to root any adds, as rooting doesn't affect xps either, only heals and damage do if the mob cons grey to the higher level (if it cons green+ to the higher level then an xp share occurs, hence powerlevelling becomes possible).
First 10 or so levels can be done in the noob zone and don't benefit much from buffs. But from about 10 onwards it would be nice to have some high level buffs and then can head somewhere like the Shar Labyrinth (catacombs zone).
I'll look into installing a Vent server. Not sure how complex this is, but will investigate.
Brigh, happy birthday for Monday and welcome to old fartdom! :)
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have a good birthday weekend Brigh :-)
p.s. luri champs rock :)
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Good news and bad news. Bad news first: I looked into Ventrilo and found out that I need my web hosting provider to open up a UDP port for it and I don't want to hassle them with this. Good news: I remembered that they'd previously enabled a port for me to use Teamspeak on (I can't just point Ventrilo to this as the freeware version of Ventrilo won't let you change the default port). So, I've got teamspeak up and running instead. I'll post connection details in the members area here.
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Nice one Cern and happy b-day Brigh :)
Sax.
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I just found out that if you visit the NPC Droevig (Royal Accountant) in Tir na Nog palace and click on his "ready" link twice, he will give you two full respec stones for free. I thought this was only for existing 50s but looks like it applies to brand new toons too, as I just got given two full respec stones for my Hero. Very nice. Could be just what you were looking for Sax.
Also, while hanging around in TNN chatting about crafting last night I was lucky to be the recipient of some generosity from an established 50 who gave me a vault load of crafting materials to skill up my trinketing with. Once levelled on these I should be able to salavage stuff up to about level 30x, maybe beyond. So if you have any spare drops (armour & weapons) that aren't good enough to equip and you want converted into gold, pass them to me and I'll salvage and trinket them for you.
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Thats awesome and very lucky/good diplomacy :)
I have a vault load of lvl 31-35 stuff thats no good to me or either of you, mostly cloth and valewalker stuff. I'll pass them to you next time your on, I still haven't checked your link out to see how easy/hard it is to lvl salvaging but I guess I should make myself more useful and lvl either Scale or Spellcrafting tbh :)
Sax.
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Got given 500g yesterday while helping someone setup a new guild so if you need any money for crafting etc then just ask and you can have it as I don't need it yet.
Is it worth me crafting in something?
Brigh :D
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Armourcrafting might be worth a shot. I've been keeping an eye on the housing merchants and it seems hard to find scale, either player crafted or drops, for thidranki or molvik. Even if you have the money the gear just isn't there.
No point wearing player crafted gear without spellcrafting to put some stats on it though. I plan to level up a spellcrafter capable of doing thidranki and molvik templates. But this needs more gold than we currently have between us all, so until my salvaging starts to reap returns Aurulite gear looks the best bet.
I dinged 20 on my Hero and also got the Bard up to 20 too. Hopefully we can push to 24 and do some Thidranki runs.
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Ok will look into armourcrafting as well then.
I dinged 20 over the weekend with my champ so we should hit thid around the same time.
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I dropped a msg on the Prydwen boards. Will have a scout around for a suitable Ywain Hib guild as well, I tend not to think of my current guild as that great tbh.
Sax.
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Spent about an hour or hour and a half scrolling through lists of kit and finally managed to dig out the right few pieces to set me up for Molvik :)
Not sure if I have a good set of kit or I only think I have a good set of kit but it is defineatly better than what I had previously :)
If we're gonna go for some crafts who is doing what? Cern, I know your salvaging, Brigh you gonna craft armour? If so I'll start spellcrafting. Does this sound workable?
Sax.
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I'm definitely going to go for spellcrafting, the salvaging is just a means to fund the spellcrafter. I've always had a spellcrafter since Prydwen days, so I know the ropes with overcharging (the art of how not to explode!), template building and the stat and resist caps at different levels etc. So I can get a spellcrafter up to speed nice and quick once the salvaging starts to kick in (getting there).
I don't want to take the wind out of anyones sails, so if you want to also make a SC'er go for it (its useful to have your own for self sufficiency). Alchemy would be a nice alternative to look at (buff pots, healing and endurance elixirs, armour and weapon procs, dyes). I've never tried alchemy so dunno how expensive it is to get to a level where you can make useful stuff.
As for Armour and Weapon crafting, was talking with Brigh about this, and I don't think we can get it to any useful level with the gold any of us have available.
My tip would be for everyone to level the craft skills necessary for salvaging and trinketing as this is independant of whatever main profession you choose anyway (besides I think Mythic changed it so that toons can have multiple professions).
I really don't mind salvaging and trinketing for you (not just saying it) but without a house vault it becomes hard to organise storing and transfering items and so in the long run you will probably find it beneficial to have your own. Salvaging is the best way to create an income before you are able to own a house and have a merchant. Without a house and a merchant it's very hard to make money out of any crafting professions as there's nowhere else to sell items. The exception is spellcrafting but the only money to be made from that comes from doing templates for Thid, Molvik and endgame, and people usually ask for heavy amounts of item overcharging which unless you have SC'ing to a high level runs the risk of explosion, loss of the item and an irate customer :o
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This is from today's Hot Fix notes:
Starting today and running through 1/4/2010, all of the realms will be celebrating the season with a 200% bonus to experience and Bounty Points.
Looks like a good time to get some toons levelled up fast if you have some free time over the Xmas hols.
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Awesome! :)
Sax.
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Just found someone who wanted to do a Alb-Hib plat trade, so I've asset stripped my old alb toons which I havent played since Catacombs release and don't intend to again, dunno what I was ever thinking rolling alb :)
Anyway, got enough plats on Hib now to set up a house and PL a spellcrafter which should make things a bit easier. House warming party invites will be in the post soon :)
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Nice one Cern - just in time to decorate it for Christmas :)
Should be on again tonight to finish leveling my fotm vampiir to level 24!
Brigh :D
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Made 24th now, so have a toon for both BG's :) Though I need to correctly kit my Ranger out still.
Will prolly lvl my Ranger up with both of you guys when your ready though :)
Won't be about tonight but should be knocking around a fair amount tomorrow if anyone is about.
Sax.
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yo!
well, hey guys :)
cern got me ticking with this daoc resurection thing...
i wanna be sure i dun waste my time...
are 'we' playing Hib then?
id play some healing type rather...
so bard i guess, what ya need most?
if not bard, that wud be then some evil dps class. no clue who wud be that after all these years hehe...
gimme some answers, 30% client dl, got like 1,5hrs to prepare hihi :)
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Hey Shi,
Good to hear from ya! I have a Druid 50th, a Ranger 39th and am working on a Bard 19th. Brigh has a Vampiir - dps melee, non stealth but with stealth detection and can climb walls and a Eldy at 39th (I think), Cern has a Hero as his main but also a Bard, Druid, Animist all at 50th. I guess Bard would be the best choice, even though I have started lvling one, other than that some sort of serious caster dps, Enchanter or Bainshee I think would be good choices, Animists strike me as being better at forting u than roaming.
See ya soon,
Sax.
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hey hey cool :)
what names you using ingame guys?
id start a bard, been always an alting guy, but no way i keep repeating this anymore heheh... so 1 toon :)
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and 1 more question:
do i need to craft?
or can i survive without it, matter of getting enough gold to maintain myself... no clue how the game evolved over years, id rather focus on lvling and getting 50 then playing rvr, then clicking round an anvil or sth... :)
no clue, unless it changed and became 'enjoyable' , can always listen to an audiobook meanwhile hihi... (45%)
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Hey Shi,
I just got your PMs but will reply here so everyone can see.
Quick rundown:
* Sax, Brigh and myself are on the Ywain server currently playing Hib. We have Mid toons on the same server as well (this is possible now) but Hib is where we've decided to focus our efforts. We're in Na Fianna Dragun guild which has some folks from old Hib Pryd, plus some new faces.
* It doesn't matter which of the Ywains you roll on, eg ywain1, Ywain2 etc, they are all the same server for PVE and RvR, the only thing it matters for is housing zones (there wasn't enough housing to go round so they sharded it). Since I'm the only one with a house currently and since I can give you access to it, you might be best off creating your toons on Ywain2 to make it easier getting to my house.
* Character names of mains are:
Me: Cernos (Hero), Cerngaric (Animist), Cernow (Eldritch).
Sax: Djem (Druid), Safix (Ranger), Saxon (Bard, lowbie).
Brigh: Brighy (Vampiir), Brighie (Eldritch).
* If you're wanting to make a support toon, I would recommend Bard. Currently we're short of toons with speed, so a Bard would be a big help. Sax was levelling one up but I think its a side project. I have a 39 bard but mostly as a taxi for my mains, I'm more of a dps or tank player than support. So go with Bard.
* Crafting: don't worry about it to start with. I can help you out with some cash to get started. I have a high level spellcrafter and so can make templates, including for endgame.
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cheers :)
any tips for lvling? not sure what changed since i played the game.
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Well, Bard is probably the hardest Hib class to level solo via combat (always was, still is). So I would do quests in the Noob tutorial zone until level 8 or 9, then go to the mainland and quest. If you would prefer I can help with a spot of powerlevelling, but you might prefer to get used to the game again first, though by the time you've been through the tutorial zone you should have an idea. Up to you, I'm happy to powerlevel if you would like. Alternatively I can make a new lowbie alt and we can level together, at least up until Thidranki. Will be logging in shortly, can talk about it then.
First plan would be to get to around level 20-24 and go to the Thidranki battleground for some RvR and get used to your toon in RvR again, mezzing and stuff. I can make you up some armour to use in Thidranki. After that level again until 35-39 for the Molvik battleground. Spend some time there and then when you're ready level on to 50.
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hihi Shi :-) Hope you're well !
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I found Bards fairly ok to lvling, but then I did lvl a Druid. Keep your weapon and music high, asusming Music is your insta DD. Keep getting the next highest lvl of DD as soon as it becomes available. Doesn't matter if you pick Blades or Blunt at 18 skill you get the next anytime style, so at 18th lvl you want to be picking that up right away. Keep your eye out for reinforced armour on the Meath merchants from lvl 15 onwards, that'll make a big difference. I think you get free weapons from your trainer up till lvl 20, so keep picking them up. I did Catacombs till about lvl 17-ish but be careful some of those mobs in the early zone are tough (mez? damage add?), then went back to Muire for a few lvls, now am lvl 19, will lvl in Muire a bit more prolly, then I think I know a good camp in the SI starter zone near the 2nd town.
Solo lvling is fairly easy, if you can find a small grp it is even faster and more fun, don't worry about anything except getting the lvl 18 anytime style and the dd spells till about 20th or 21st, then put some points into Nurture? for the next Clear Path run thing and a mez that will have a chance of working vs lvl 24 Thid players. Then you want to get into Thid and get MoP2 and Long Wind 1 as you'll be hitting alot of stuff as you lvl, then head to 39th and go into Molvik until about RR2L1 (ish) and pick up MoP3 and keep going. You really won't get many grps until you hit 50th, so don't worry to much about buffs or regrowth. Get some Regrowth items to make your heals more reliable and put a few points into it, but don't worry to much.
I can make some potions that regen End, so will drop a few lvl 10 and 20 ones into Cerns house vault, they are very useful and there should be a supply of buff pots in there also, they will really help you. They give 50 dex/quick and 50 str/con from lvl 10 onwards and will be a major driving force behind you beating stuff up. I'll try and kepe the vault stocked, but bit skint at the mo and prolly not on again till Monday/Tuesday.
Hope that helps!
Sax.
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hey Las :)
cheers Sax, lvl 15 now.
we had a nice session with cern on his vampyr, we did the respective bgs and went from lvl 6 to 15 :) , on mobs/albs/mids :)
was great fun
keeeping so far a support spec, and think will do so onwards, hopefully i find company to lvl :)
whats again the nice UI addon to get? da.....? cern mentioned it to me, but i cant find it under useful daoc links thread...
thx!
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Looks like I forgot to put the Derida's UI link in the sticky section (have added it now).
Here's the link:
http://nsaney.com/download.htm
File you want is Derida's UI 2.51. The download archive will create a folder called custom. Copy this to Dark Age Of Camelot/ui/ folder and then in the game launch options choose custom UI.
Derida's will give you an extra large icon (above your character portrait) where you can set up some of the different options. The main things you get from Deridas is a nice healer's helper, a floating target window and a generally tidier interface. If you aren't so keen on Deridas, try Bob's UI. Other people rate it though I prefer Derida's myself.
http://bobsui.koamon.com/downloads.html
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Hey Shi
Good to see you are playing again - I've not been around these last few days but I should be around tonight if you need help with anything
Brigh :D
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Hey Shi
Good to see you are playing again - I've not been around these last few days but I should be around tonight if you need help with anything
Brigh :D
hey hey
feels wierd to feel good to play this oldie game hihi, rly :)
just realised i rolled a class i'm gonna get a full dose of flame whenever my aoe mezzing fails buuhuuuh doh oh well, guess if i was a druid same wud go for rooting hihi
gotta live a responsible life i guess :P
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MEZZ FFS !!!! :D
Bard is the hardest class in Hib to play, possibly even the whole game. But the good thing about that is no-one moans at the Bard if it all goes tits up because everyone knows how hard the Bard's job is.
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I played Maleg's bard every now and again for our group, I know exactly what you mean as it's such an important role, no pressure Shi ! ;)
Dunno whats worse though, people complaining or the tumbleweed silence of death....
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Dunno whats worse though, people complaining or the tumbleweed silence of death....
ugh ahah :)