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Title: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on February 20, 2009, 10:14:09 am
Hey peeps,

Still not really feeling the urge to return to wow or play any other kind of MMO's, but I'm still gaming a bit and was wondering if there was perhaps something else we could do on a more casual basis. I came across Left 4 Dead and wonder if 2 or 3 of you would want to play it together ?

Essentially its a 4 player co-op FPS game, with lots of zombies (:D) and seems like it can get quite frantic. It's got tons of awards for it's simple co-op gameplay and ideal for short gaming sessions from the sounds of it. It from Valve (HL2, CS etc) and here's the URL for the game http://www.l4d.com/home.php (http://www.l4d.com/home.php) - also check out the youtube link also for gameplay movies n stuff, looks kinda fun and http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=left+4+dead+gameplay&aq=f (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=left+4+dead+gameplay&aq=f)

You can buy it from steam or in a store, though note you do need to have steam installed to run it. Whilst i don't really care for steam I've had it ever since i bought HL2, but i understand if some people don't like it - just note that you need it to play. On the plus side Steam has built in voice chat (though i dunno how good the quality is) and you can also host private games for your friends which should make finding each other easy. Seems the price is about ?26 everywhere, not seen it cheaper.

If a few of ya are up for it then maybe we can get the game and meet up on an agreed night for a session or two of zombie keeeling :) Let me know what you think

Las

p.s. I am also trying to use MSN as much as i can for those that want to stay in touch (though Im not on terribly often atm due to work keeping me busy), anyways use my email address to add me if you also use MSN (if you don't have it then PM me, though i think most do).
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on February 20, 2009, 11:59:23 am
I was interested in this game but when it got released it got alot of bad press was very buggy so haven't looked since, I guess they sorted that now though.  I'd like to but don't think I have the time, I only really play Civ4 atm and haven't even touched Dead Space for ages :(

I guess I am a maybe in the next month or so, kinda hoping Aion is gonna be good though, not sure if I'll go back to WoW now, Xan keeps telling me that PvP is kinda borked with far to much damage and such, thats kinda keeping me away from it atm tbh.

Also, I don't currently have MSN on this machine, never got round to re-installing it.  Will let you know if I do though :)

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on February 20, 2009, 12:24:56 pm
Yeah bugs were only a temporary thing when they patched it i think by doing a quick google. Really no rush or anything just trying to think of something fairly simple we could do as we're all pretty busy atm, so was thinking a non time intensive game could be fun for a couple of hours a week kinda thing. If waiting a month or so helps i don't mind either - also no biggie if peeps don't fancy it, was just thinking about something eko said to me the other day that we couldn't think of some decent non-MMO multiplayer games that we could all play (which also won't take an age to get into or require a large time commitment)

btw, you are really considering Aion ? You don't have much time yet want to play a Korean MMO ? You're a braver man than me mate :)
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on February 20, 2009, 01:14:44 pm
Left 4 Dead looked like a fun game, especially co-op (dunno if there even is single player available), but like most multiplayer games it's much more fun to play with people you know. I sure am interested to play sometime, especially something which isn't time-intensive (new job and have to get up early, so unfortunately have to go to bed early (well ... early being around midnight my time)).

Can't you bloody foreigners move to my timezone or even to one hour ahead since I'm home relatively early ;D.

Korean MMO, ugh, means grindfest, have fun Sax :). And pfft, you said you were going back to WoW, I even sent some nice blue leather pants to your drood. If you ever decide to go back you'll probably catch me up anyway, levelling goes slooooow when only playing 30m to an hour a day.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on February 20, 2009, 01:24:23 pm
Hmm, well Aion seemed like a X-breed Korean/Western.  I don't have time, and if it did take and age I prolly would walk away, kinda wish I had stuck out L2 but got to lvl 20 twice (gave it 2 attempts, over a year apart) once with a Dark Elf and once with an Orc but just didn't get hooked.  The PvP sounds amazing in it though if you can get up to max lvl (>9months heavy play I think, prolly more like >12 months with current expacs).

I'll try and find some time for WoW but I am almost scared of getting stuck in again, it always starts with a couple hours here and there, then suddenly I need ALL PURPLE GEAR ZOMG!!!!!!!! >30hours a day! ;p

Btw Eko, I dunno how you cope, if I dont goto bed at 11pm, then when I wake up at 07:30 I am always tired, even going to bed at midnight and getting up at 07:30 breaks me :(

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on February 20, 2009, 02:23:41 pm
Pfft, youth of today, no stamina ;D.

So far it's going fine, usually go to bed between 0:00 and 0:30 and get up at 6:20 since I want to leave at around 7:00 so traffic is ok. Thought I'd feel much worse, but not really feeling (that) tired strangely.

As for WoW, purple gear is overrated anyway ;). I kinda feel like raiding again, but don't want to go through all the preparations again (grind for gear, food, rep, ...) so instead taking it real easy and so far it's working.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: xann on February 20, 2009, 03:22:58 pm
Don't need to grind to prep for raiding eko, i jumped right in with out touching a normal instance and wearing crapy crafted blues :) and who needs food buffs rly :D

Always enjoyed fps multi-player, so if ur all thinking about it, i'd tag along for a few games. Will look into Left 4 Dead, not heard of it, tho am worried that the Zombies will scare Sax away...

As for WoW, yes i've been raiding, and Xanic has many purple pixels, but PvP is a sorry state atm and doesn't seem to be a solutions to resolve it on the horizon. Something must happen with it soon tho, think alot of ppl are complaining about it, even the OP classes, Insta-gibbing gets boring too


Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on February 20, 2009, 09:24:07 pm
Xan, Shep sent a e-mail round a couple of months ago looking for people to play Left for Dead, I assume he borked all your e-mail addressess though, just like he did about going out ...

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on February 27, 2009, 11:35:26 am
Have to say that after 3 weeks of getting up early + having had to get up even earlier (5:30 am) to go to The Hague for 2 days this week I'm feeling knackered ;D. It's also fairly quiet at work right now, but that will change in 2 weeks when the Dutch helpdesk will be closed down and we get all the Dutch calls.

Guess it's just Las and me to play L4D then :P. Or maybe we can try some TF2? Though Left 4 Dead seems more fun, drops 4 people into a zombie movie basically, means you have to look after each other as at times you get overwhelmed and there are also some special zombie types which are hard to kill on your own. There's also a Survivors vs Infected mode in which players can also play as zombies.  Normal co-op sounds the most fun though imo.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on February 27, 2009, 12:03:20 pm
I get payed soon, so might go and get it, will see how I feel, buying that and DoWII, is a bit costly for me atm :(

TF2 has a number of very very good players in it, went back to it a couple of months ago and I couldn't do anything :(

Bring back Savage 1  ;D

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on February 27, 2009, 01:49:16 pm
would consider buying this via steam if you guys are still interested in giving it a go and have space for an extra.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on February 27, 2009, 04:44:55 pm
I'm still up for it (but didn't buy it yet), Life is pretty busy atm so happy enough to wait a week or two. Was also considering this a a pretty casual thing just for some multiplayer fun, but would be ideal with 4 of us i think :) Better than stupid RTS (bleh ;) )
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on February 28, 2009, 02:11:16 pm
Just say when you're feeling up to trying out a game, I'm always up for it :).
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on March 01, 2009, 12:32:50 am
I'm still up for it (but didn't buy it yet), Life is pretty busy atm so happy enough to wait a week or two. Was also considering this a a pretty casual thing just for some multiplayer fun, but would be ideal with 4 of us i think :) Better than stupid RTS (bleh ;) )

Would be up for it (on a casual basis).  Let me know if / when and I'll purchase via steam.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on March 02, 2009, 11:35:07 am
How about we try sometime this week, say tomorrow or wed? Around 8:30pm? Or is that too early for you? I don't really mind what time, as long as you know I'll quit at midnight at the latest.

Got enough other games to occupy myself, so don't worry if you can't do this week. Playing No More Heroes on the Wii and despite the sometimes immature humour it proves to be a lot of fun. Story isn't very interesting, go from rank 11th assassin to rank 1, but the characters are cool and the action is just over the top and varied enough to stay interesting. Inbetween the ranked matches you have to earn money via sidejobs that range from assassinations to mowing lawns and collecting coconuts. Money comes easy though, so it's not like you have to do 456543 jobs inbetween.

Waiting on Madworld for the Wii which should come out this month and which seems to be a mix between the movies Escape from New York and Running Man and the game Manhunt. It's also very much like a comic with gfx in black and white, ott violence and story. What I've seen from it looks and sounds great ;D.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on March 02, 2009, 01:11:50 pm
Think I'll pick it up also, though maybe next week.  If there are to many of us don't mind dropping out or anything though :)

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on March 02, 2009, 04:46:23 pm
Cool Sax, just watch where you aim that shotgun, friendly fire is possible :P.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on March 02, 2009, 06:59:31 pm
Cant do during the week this week eko, but i can download it and be ready for the weekend perhaps? I'm out friday but should be around saturday

las
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on March 02, 2009, 08:07:26 pm
Sure, fine by me Las :). Though come to think of it, I have to visit my aunt, so will be away in the afternoon, early evening, but should be back by 9pm I think.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on March 03, 2009, 08:32:27 pm
oki's, is that 9pm CET ? Mal can you do that too ?
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on March 03, 2009, 10:09:45 pm
Actually it's Sunday I have to go on visit, so free to play whenever on Sat :).
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on March 03, 2009, 10:11:00 pm
alrighty, sat evening sometime then, ping me on MSN
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on March 04, 2009, 06:40:14 pm
Who is in?  If I pick up the game is there a space?

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on March 04, 2009, 06:50:06 pm
yep just me eko and mal so far, only other one who said they might is xan but not confirmed?
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on March 04, 2009, 11:18:51 pm
4 ppl max a game though, right?

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on March 04, 2009, 11:27:55 pm
If playing the campaign in co-op mode yeah, but in vs mode you can have more people since some play as zombies then.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: xann on March 05, 2009, 01:49:11 am
only other one who said they might is xan but not confirmed?

actuly planned on getting the game tomoz, so /ticked for a game this weekend, like the idea of playing a zombie :D brains...
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: xann on March 05, 2009, 03:47:30 pm
got the game, ?29.99 from store. i love it, but i'm having trouble with wasting my own team mates in single player... :D don't run in front of me! stupid AI :P
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on March 06, 2009, 08:54:47 am
cool, I've got the game but only very briefly played ... though it looks pretty simple to get into anyways :)

Lets meet 7pm UK time tomorrow unless any objections?, seems steam has a kinda MSN messenger thing built in and from there i think you can organise games n stuff, so lets meet in that. My steam name is lasiien so add me as a friend in the steam community bit.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on March 06, 2009, 10:25:55 am
got the game, ?29.99 from store. i love it, but i'm having trouble with wasting my own team mates in single player... :D don't run in front of me!
Sure, you can go in front, I'll be in the back ... of the safehouse ;D.

Will see you all tomorrow in game then (and guess which char I want to play :P).
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on March 06, 2009, 10:34:48 am
Wasn't that our normal arena team strategy anyways eko ? Las + eko run around allot and xan does the killing ? ;)
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on March 06, 2009, 12:18:37 pm
Rofl, so true! Your shadowpriest worked great as distraction, though you didn't stay alive long enough for the strategy to really work!

This is gonna be fun, can almost already hear the swearing at Xan as he shoots one of us again ;D.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: xann on March 06, 2009, 06:49:16 pm
hehe, don't worry, my aims like a laser.. going thru a prism. i don't wanna die from lack of shooting back, Quantity > Quality. Unlimited pistol ammo!

Carc's just brought the game too, liked the look of gore splattered across the screen ;)

stopped playing WoW for now, just hope they change PvP somehow, or i can't see myself renewing subs.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on March 06, 2009, 09:15:42 pm
I am still skint :(

Will prolly get it on my b-day later this month, let us know what you all think of it and I'll pester Xan and Carco for their reviews also :)

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on March 06, 2009, 10:15:10 pm
I am still skint :(

Will prolly get it on my b-day later this month, let us know what you all think of it and I'll pester Xan and Carco for their reviews also :)

Sax.

I'm installing it now, if you really wanna play it Sax I'll buy it for you as an early b'day present.

PS if you have a decent internet connection it's only 26.99 via steam.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on March 06, 2009, 11:35:18 pm
Cheers for the offer Mal but ... I ... can ... wait ...

Sax :)
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on March 09, 2009, 12:24:58 am
Was fun Saturday night, Kap has also bought it now so we should have 6 for the next session.
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Post by: Lasiien on March 10, 2009, 07:48:52 pm
Nice one :) And yep was fun on saturday, especially watching you trying to sneak about with that great big boomer :)
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on March 11, 2009, 11:47:49 pm
Round 2 this weekend sometime, just a few hours so it doesn't get too old?
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on March 12, 2009, 08:38:27 am
Sure, I can do Saturday again if others can ?
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Post by: Maleg on March 12, 2009, 09:53:36 pm
Sure, I can do Saturday again if others can ?
Saturday is good for me if others are in, will check with Kap also.
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Post by: xann on March 12, 2009, 10:20:55 pm
ye, be cool if we could start the same sorta time again, won't be staying on till late. will tell carc too
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Post by: Lasiien on March 13, 2009, 01:18:12 pm
yeah about 7pm and end in time for 10pm or so (match of the day..... eh xan ? :))
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Post by: xann on March 13, 2009, 02:50:17 pm
heh, nah Premiership football depresses me, 'cos we're so far from it these days :P but hopefully not for much longer :)

boxing at 9pm, khan v barrera, tho the undercard is prolly gonna be better... Maccarinelli v Afolabi is a good match up
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Post by: xann on March 17, 2009, 04:43:30 pm
shame we can't play that Airport level in Verses mode, was a fun one, and even more of a challagne with pc zombies :) tho npc survivors pwn /nerf

next time we leave no one behind, rip eko... i blame sax
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Post by: Lasiien on March 17, 2009, 07:17:39 pm
hehe yeah was really cool at the end, very furious and fast paced. Can't believe it was just regular difficulty.... we're such noobs ;)

And yup RIP eko... :-)

Not sure when i can do next, I am away this w/e so prolly next week sometime i think
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on March 19, 2009, 10:38:44 am
sorry I didn't make it, had guests at the last minute and couldn't get away.
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Post by: Lasiien on March 19, 2009, 02:11:54 pm
no worries mal, we'll try again for the next one
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Post by: xann on March 24, 2009, 01:25:49 pm
whens good for every1 then? i'm up for another zombie bashing Saturday
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Post by: Lasiien on March 24, 2009, 07:27:04 pm
Sure, fine for me
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Post by: Maleg on March 25, 2009, 07:49:14 pm
sounds good, should be around.
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Post by: Lasiien on March 27, 2009, 05:09:55 pm
about 7pm ish saturday then, eko you in ?
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Post by: eKo on March 27, 2009, 05:17:35 pm
Sure, fine for me :).

But if you guys move out while leaving me lying dead one more time I'm not playing again :P.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: xann on April 03, 2009, 06:30:09 pm
ppl wanna play tomoz? mabye play some verses even if we don't have enough peeps?
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Post by: Lasiien on April 03, 2009, 07:49:09 pm
sure, can do, lets say 7pm again and see who's about
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on April 03, 2009, 09:06:48 pm
Sure, got new gfx card (ATI Radeon 4870 1Gb) and 24" widescreen monitor to test out :).
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on April 13, 2009, 09:33:48 am
Bah, missed it again, sorry - just got back from Skiing.  Hope everything going well.  Las, your MSN still the same or that changed also?

Regards
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on April 13, 2009, 04:37:47 pm
No worries, yeah still the same i just don't sign in as often as i should :)
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on April 14, 2009, 12:27:46 pm
You still playing this?  If so is it still only once a week?

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on April 14, 2009, 03:44:38 pm
Yeah though prolly averaging less than once a week really, it's not the kind of game you really want to play every night. It's exactly what i thought it would be tbh, which is a very polished co-op game that is also crazy fun in the versus mode, the downside is the lack of maps and variety really.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: xann on April 14, 2009, 05:23:51 pm
ye still once a week pretty much, missed out last weekend being easter n'all.

im up for another game this Saturday, good for ppl?

ps. Post if u think Sax should get the game. c'moooooooooon
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Maleg on April 14, 2009, 07:35:42 pm
Will try and make it this weekend if I can.
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Post by: Saxif on April 14, 2009, 08:41:09 pm
I fancy it but ?30 for a once a week hit seems alot.  I have been seriously thinking of going back to AC to re-live some of the glory days, mmorpgs where great back then <gets all misty eye'd>

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on April 14, 2009, 09:27:31 pm
Afraid I'm away this w/e but if you have enough should go ahead without me.

I understand what you mean sax, it is perhaps a bit much for the amount we play. Perhaps watch for it if it goes on sale in steam or something.

But on the other hand it has already paid for itself in entertainment value, for example:

...fighting all he way to the end of a campaign and carco, xan and me leaving eko's dead body behind (we had a nice funeral for him!)
...watching maleg trying to stealth about and hide behind a wall with a massive fat infected character
...killing xan (never gets old)
...getting killed by xan, again (gets old fast)
...watching carco practically solo half a level on his last bit of health, i don't think his character could have been any closer to death tbh

you get the idea :)
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Post by: xann on April 14, 2009, 09:59:49 pm
...Vomiting green goo on everyone
...Dragging the poor sucker that was left at the back into the darkness
...Leaping from the top of buildings onto unexpecting "survivours"
...Whacking people like the Hulk and sending them flying off roof tops
...Pipe Bombs
...Creeping past the witch "shh... AMgwd!!!blehhhhhhhh..dfglL"T???!"
...Being a hero, like running back out of the saferoom to save your pal whos having several new holes made in him, or mabye not
...Watching Las blowing himself up and taking 1/2 his team with him
...Trying to catch eKo who i always seem to find hiding behind the npcs

etc
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Post by: eKo on April 15, 2009, 04:12:00 pm
...Watching Las blowing himself up and taking 1/2 his team with him
ROFL, That was sooo funny ;D.
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Post by: Lasiien on April 15, 2009, 05:15:38 pm
I don't remember such an incident :p

;)
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Post by: Maleg on April 15, 2009, 08:32:10 pm
my most memorable moment is wiping out all survivors in about 10 seconds using that Tank by smashing that tree into the tunnel :D

And Hey, I speced my fat blob guy stealth!
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: xann on April 16, 2009, 12:33:07 am
so if ur up for it, the usual time (7pm uk) will see whos around.
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Post by: xann on April 23, 2009, 01:14:31 am
won't be around this Saturday, but still wanna have a bash sometime soon... Zombie withdrawal.

Mabye Friday? or midweek next week? or is the Weekend the only real option for most peeps? (ofc u could just play without me on Saturday.../sob)
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on April 23, 2009, 07:24:35 am
I don't mind when as long as we end relatively early (this week) as I have the early shift and it's already killing me :P. Think Las can/wants to only play weekends.

There's also been an update to L4D, they added Survival mode. Throws zombies at you constantly and goal is to survive as long as possible. Tried it once in multiplayer with 3 npcs and didn't survive long, didn't last 3 minutes ;D. Looks like great fun with 4 players really, just a shame there's only 1 new map for it, rest is played on 4 other maps which are featured in the campaigns.

Can't wait to try it out!
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Lasiien on April 23, 2009, 08:24:26 am
I can prolly do midweek next week, say tues or wed?

Some big changes coming for me at work though and I'm also going to be moving house, so my activity is gonna drop even further after next week I'm afraid !
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on April 25, 2009, 10:20:52 am
Moving house sucks, hope it goes well Las.

Sax.
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Post by: Lasiien on April 28, 2009, 08:00:45 am
ta Sax.

Gah i forgot football is on tonight and tomorrow so cant play then either. Think the best thing is for you guys to go ahead without me over the next month or two, I'll let you all know when things get a bit more stable ! :)

p.s. grats on awakening progress eko - going real well !
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Post by: xann on April 28, 2009, 12:34:29 pm
ye, i forgot about the footie too. lets just stick to weekends most of the time i guess...

Think the best thing is for you guys to go ahead without me over the next month or two, I'll let you all know when things get a bit more stable ! :)

ok Las, will try and have the odd game still 'till you've got more free time, be a shame to let it fade away and gather dust :)

Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: Saxif on April 28, 2009, 09:35:44 pm
Awakening progress??  I thought they licked all the content already?  Aren't you guys going through all the raids with alts yet?!!  ;p

Sax.
Title: Re: oh no....zombies !!?!
Post by: eKo on April 28, 2009, 09:51:28 pm
Pfft, do you even keep up with WoW? 3.1 patch with new raid dungeon came out, err ... 2 weeks ago or so and so far no guilds on Wildhammer have fully cleared it (not even CM) :). We've killed the first 4 out of 10 or so bosses in 25-man and they've killed more in 10-man.

Kinda only raiding anymore, can't be bothered to do anything else in WoW. Mainly playing Fallout 3 again (grr @ losing save games somewhere near the end) and The Last Remnant (nice looking jrpg, but the constant mobbattles do get tedious after a while).